Sunday, May 13, 2012

Learning Parenthood from the Experts

Let me see if I've got this straight (so to speak).

Bristol Palin really has no business being in the public eye, other than the fact that her mother was a failed candidate for vice president who supported abstinence-only education, and Bristol stands as evidence of that policy's success. Is that about right?

So, given that fact, I suppose there's some ironic humor to be had that she keeps cropping up in the media. Most recently coughing up a short column on patheos.com, where she complained about Obama expressing support for marriage equality.

And there's some spectacular logical facepalms in there.
When Christian women run for high office, people inevitably bring up the question of submission. Once, Michele Bachmann, for example, was asked during a debate, “As president, would you be submissive to your husband?”

People automatically assume that a Christian female President isn’t capable of making decisions without her spouse’s stamp of approval. (I should add female Republican candidates –liberal women don’t get the same kind of questions.)
Well, technically, the reason for that is that Christian women are claiming support for a Bible that says:
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-25 NIV)
And, for that matter:
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
Those rules seem pretty straightforward. So, if the women are going to thump their Bibles at everybody, it seems like they should be asked to justify that. That's how it works, young lady - if you don't make the claim, you don't have to justify it.

The main thrust of her argument, though, is that Obama shouldn't have consulted with his teen-aged daughters to establish policy. And she's right: he shouldn't. Of course, Obama didn't set any policy, and didn't consult with his daughters to do so, but in general, she's right.

What he said was (and she even quotes him):
You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and, frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.
He even says, in the course of that, "for me, personally." It's opinion, not policy. And he mentioned his daughters in explaining how he reached that conclusion.

That's the way normal people think, Bristol. But then again, you are your mother's daughter, so I guess we can't expect logic out of you, can we?

I've got to say, though, that my favorite part would have to be this:
While it’s great to listen to your kids’ ideas, there’s also a time when dads simply need to be dads. In this case, it would’ve been helpful for him to explain to Malia and Sasha that while her friends parents are no doubt lovely people, that’s not a reason to change thousands of years of thinking about marriage. Or that – as great as her friends may be – we know that in general kids do better growing up in a mother/father home. Ideally, fathers help shape their kids' worldview.
Gee, Miss Palin, you might think that you've just made a good point, but... well, I hate to bring this up, but do you remember a certain child named Tripp? You know, the bastard baby born out of wedlock to some tramp rich slut single mother and her high-school dropout babydaddy?

Yeah, I wonder if Tripp has seen his daddy in a while?

10 comments:

  1. I love this post! When I read Bristol Palin's thoughts on the President's opinion, all I kept thinking was, "Who gives a f*#k what Bristol Palin thinks!" I also thought that perhaps they should also interview all those sad looking teenagers on teen pregnancy on what they thought was the best way to wind down the war in Afghanistan.

    By the way, Bristol's "baby daddy" has another baby on the way with another young woman who is not Bristol.

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  2. I just want to know why anyone would bother to talk to her. According to the Alaska blog I read. Bristol will not allow Levi or his family see the child.

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  3. The authentication process for public speaking is indeed an interesting topic: who gets to speak to millions of people, and who doesn't? Why should anyone aside from her immediate family care what Bristol Palin things about the president's actions? I guess it's just the whole reality-show thing: with a bit of luck and the right connections, certain people maintain their fame by channeling (naively or otherwise) the opinions of everybody's most clueless acquaintance or blowhard uncle.

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  4. When I saw the clip of Bristol Palin weighing in on the President's wonderful support for gay Americans I wasn't sure if I should laugh, cry or throw the TV in the holler!

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  5. "for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."

    At this point, I think it is disgraceful for a woman or a man to BE in church.

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  6. Green Eagle,

    Jesus was into the green thing. The church in the U.S.A. is far from being dead or irrelevant and not without merit. Republican Christians are about the only hope we have for the republican party. That said, it has been clearly infiltrated by immoral and frightenly wicked rightwingers.

    Nameless,

    Whatever Bristol has to say is obviously unimportant. It is not your duty to impune her. Try a little harder to say something important. After all, she is only a child.

    My ranting and criticism out of the way, I will commune to this point.
    Saint Paul is not exactly the go-to guy for good theology about women in the church. I could not possibly be more tired of hearing Baptist ministers jumping through hoops at weddings to explain that timeless mal-aprop about wives submitting to their husbands, except that, thank God, it has been more than six years now. I think Paul is only expressing his own guilt about his own tortured sexuality. A blueprint for Log Cabin or repressed homosexuals within the republican party today? He clearly has no love for the females of his own Hebrew race or the all-inclusive label of faithful Gentiles.

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  7. Flyer - yes, what Bristol Palin has to say is unimportant. So why does she get a national stage on which to say it? She's the most prominent receptionist in America - a failed dancer, and a woman with no known skills other than fertility. If her mother (a failed politician who also has no reason to remain in the public eye) didn't have the kind of cash she does (the kind which allows them to drop $170K, in cash, on an apartment on the other side of the continent from her babydaddy), they would be completely irrelevant. As it is, they're just an annoyance.

    And if Bristol is going to use her national stage to say stupid shit, I'm going to stand up and point out the stupidity.

    This isn't elementary school. Ignoring them won't make them go away.

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  8. Bristol Palin has voluntarily made herself a symbol of the insane hypocrisy that underlies all Republican claims of righteousness. She has milked her sliver of fame for all it's worth, and continues to do so. And no, she is NOT a child any more.

    She is fair game for those who want to expose Republican religiosity for the sham that it is.

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  9. Sometimes it really does feel like elementary school, don't you think? Some time about four years ago I was talking with one of the more reasonable conservatives on a blog. I stated that now was truly the clearest, defining moment in presidential politics, (Obama vs. McCain). It was the cool people against the dicks. Said conservative burned my lights quite successfully by accusing me of using playground language.

    Well, classmates, it's the cool people vs. the dicks on steroids this time around.

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  10. I wouldn't call Bristol Palin "only a child", FJ. Bristol has claimed her place in the national spotlight. Her own words put her on the national stage. She offers an opinion on everything, regardless of her lack of knowledge about anything. Besides, since when do we identify a 21-year-old mother as "only a child"?

    Nameless has a valid point. Bristol chooses to be on a national stage and to use it as her personal platform. She doesn't get a pass on making stupid and irrelevant observations. She needs to get off the stage if she doesn't want to be critiqued.

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