This time, California’s highest court caved to voters in a ruling that raises more questions and contradictions than before. Here are excerpts of the ruling:
Regardless of our views as individuals on this question of policy, we recognize as judges and as a court our responsibility to confine our consideration to a determination of the constitutional validity and legal effect of the measure in question (…) setting aside our own personal beliefs and values [p. 3].If I understand this ruling correctly, 18,000 gay couples get to keep their marriages but no future marriages will be recognized in California unless the State Constitution is amended yet again or the decision is struck down by a Federal court. In other words, some gay couples end up more privileged than others, but, somehow, the ruling does not violate equal protections under the State Constitution or the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution. What an amazing feat of twisted logic!
Contrary to petitioners’ assertion, Proposition 8 does not entirely repeal or abrogate the aspect of a same-sex couple’s state constitutional right of privacy and due process that was analyzed in the majority opinion in the Marriage Cases — that is, the constitutional right of same-sex couples to “choose one’s life partner and enter with that person into a committed, officially recognized, and protected family relationship that enjoys all of the constitutionally based incidents of marriage” (...) Nor does Proposition 8 fundamentally alter the meaning and substance of state constitutional equal protection principles as articulated in that opinion [p. 7].
Finally, we consider whether Proposition 8 affects the validity of the marriages of same-sex couples that were performed prior to the adoption of Proposition 8. Applying well-established legal principles pertinent to the question whether a constitutional provision should be interpreted to apply prospectively or retroactively, we conclude that the new section cannot properly be interpreted to apply retroactively. Accordingly, the marriages of same-sex couples performed prior to the effective date of Proposition 8 remain valid and must continue to be recognized in this state [p.13].
If one fully appreciates the internal contradiction of the ruling, perhaps the California high court has cleverly inserted self-destruct language that will eventually deconstruct the ruling. Cowardice, stupidity, or cleverness? How do you see it?
If one fully appreciates the internal contradiction of the ruling, perhaps the California high court has cleverly inserted self-destruct language that will eventually deconstruct the ruling.This is an interesting thought. But if that was their goal, then why didn't they just go all the way and explain it as you just did?
ReplyDeleteProp 8 will be reversed sooner rather than later, hopefully much sooner. I don't know if a higher court will do this or if the voters will. I don't know if this is true, but I was under the impression that many CA voters regretted Prop 8's passing and that if the vote were held again today the outcome would be the opposite. If that's true, it would behoove gay-rights groups to push for another amendment. Does anyone know the status of this (or if I'm even correct)?
Brian: "But if that was their goal, then why didn't they just go all the way and explain it as you just did?"
ReplyDeleteThe voters. Apparently there is a distinction between amending the State Constitution (which requires a simple voting majority) versus revising (which requires a State Constitutional convention). Furthermore, it may be more politically astute to accede to the wishes of voters (by not marginalizing their right to amend their own constitution) and set the stage for a “voter-friendly” repeal; otherwise the issue would go back and forth in the tennis court (no pun intended) of public opinion through the end of time.
… unless one inserts self-destruct language obvious to a Federal court. If a Fed court overturns Prop 8, then voters cannot blame the California high court for the reversal.
Could be. It would be nice if a federal court made quick work of this.
ReplyDeleteSeems a two lawyers, one from each side of the Bush/Gore 2000 election challenge have teamed up and ARE taking to the Federal courts. The gay/lesbian faction aren't really pleased with this since the think the conservative feds will shoot it down.
ReplyDeleteSo, are these two lawyers making a sincere bid to repeal Prop 8 or is this a clever manoveur to further undermine the effort?
Such drama! Jeez! I hope one day soon this will be resolved and that same sex marriages will be legally recognized. I just want my fellow Americans to be happy. If they marry, I'll be happy. If they don't, I'll still be happy - my happiness does not depend on whether gays marry or not. My 30+ year marriage does not hang in the balance of this issue.
I find more pressing issues need my attention, like which of my neighbors are losing their jobs and what child in my community will be hungry tonight. You'd think the holier than thou crowd might do the same!
BTW - Brian, I just read your most excellent post on torture and I wish you would cross post it here at the Swash Zone. Great stuff!
ReplyDeleteYou'd think the holier than thou crowd might do the same!I think that all the time, but I'm always wrong. :)
ReplyDeleteClearly things are moving in the right direction (and by that I mean the left direction) on gay marriage. Five states now. California will probably flip back soon. But why there is so much opposition to gay marriage is beyond me, especially considering it's going to happen. History has proven time and again that we always end up moving toward MORE rights, MORE equality. It often takes time, but it always happens that way. Polling of younger generations shows how little we are concerned with gay marriage. It's going to be legal - sooner rather than later.
So I say to these right wingers: you can make a big stink, dragging this issue on for a few years and gay marriage will then be legal, or you can quiet down, focus on saving your own struggling marriages, and gay marriage will then be legal. What a difficult choice!!
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Thanks for the comment rocky - I'll post it here too.
Rockync: "Seems two lawyers, one from each side of the Bush/Gore 2000 election challenge, have teamed up and ARE taking to the Federal courts."
ReplyDeleteSince the Bush lawyers argued the election challenge on "equal Protection" grounds, one should think they will be successful in winning this argument too. If this turns out to be a double cross of the gay community, expect a fierce backlash.
Ah yes, the wisdom (cough . . . cop-out) of "allowing" FIFTY states to decide major issues that effect the entire country.
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