I heard those sirens on the old wooden radio when I was a kid. Milwaukee-Dad welded B-24 propellers.
I really have a very difficult time listening to them and always have had. Goosebumps.
When I lived in London in the 1980s, there were few reminders left of the war. All rubble had long since been removed; new buildings stood in their place.But when I moved to Farningham Kent a year later, I met neighbors who remembered the air raids and the doodlebugs and spoke of them. One neighbor recalled losing a childhood buddy during the raids. Another man was the one who hauled rubble out of London on lorries ... later used for roadbeds and landfill. Other neighbors recalled a live fire military exercise that went awry and killed thousands weeks before the Normandy invasion. The disaster was covered up - impact on morale, they said - and never made the history books but there were folks who still talked about it.Years later as I traveled the continent, there were visible signs of war everywhere. Pock marked bullet holes in La Mairie de Rouen; a photo exhibit of the destroyed cathedral; the Gedächtniskirche on Kurfürstendamm in Berlin.Wherever I traveled and saw these reminders of war, I thought of this popular song of the times: There'll Be Bluebirds Over The White Cliffs of Dover.
"the Gedächtniskirche on Kurfürstendamm in Berlin."What remains of the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial church sticks up like a rotten tooth today. My first trip to Germany in 1965 was shocking for the amount of damage still visible, but at age 20 I thought the war was so long ago as to be all but irrelevant. East Germany at the time still had rubble piled up everywhere, bullet holes on walls. . .My parents' house in Windsor - in sight of the castle - had a garden shed made from the reinforced concrete bomb shelter that proved too hard to demolish. Right after our dearly beloved 9/11 attack, the reaction of the British was on my mind as a jarring contrast to the way the idiot Bush handled it. One has to compare the toughness of the Brits with the hysteria of Americans. One has to weigh Churchill's stirring " we will never surrender" speech to Bush's "we goan smokimout - wegoan gettim."And remember the British had the armed might of the most powerful country in Europe to face down. We had some raggedy lunatics hiding in a cave with small arms and cell phones.The Brits moved on, toughed it out. We still feel sorry for ourselves. We still are running around the barnyard like headless chickens.
My mother told me of watching the Nazis roll in to her native country. She was just a kid then but more than 60 years later there is still that haunted look in her eyes. The look of a child who experienced more fear and horror than any child should.The lesson we should take from this "greatest generation" I think is their resilience and resolve to stand up to evil, to fight back and to survive.Great post tnlib.
Octo: My grandmom made her "Farewell Tour" in Europe in the 50s and brought back reels of film with bombed out structures in England and on the Continent. I listened intently as she described the devastation that was still so visible. "There'll Be Bluebirds Over The White Cliffs of Dover- I love that song.Capt: If you don't mind, I'm going to copy this to my blog. I have wondered if we soft spoiled Americans could survive this in the here and now and if we would help those in need or would we slam the shelter doors in their faces. This stands out: "We still feel sorry for ourselves. We still are running around the barnyard like headless chickens."Rocky: "The lesson we should take from this "greatest generation" I think is their resilience and resolve to stand up to evil, to fight back and to survive."I don't think we have the grit. More importantly, the people who are always so eager to start the damn war are the least courageous of all. I think you mentioned where your mom was from but I've forgotten.I just can't imagine going through any of that - 76 nights straight of sirens and bombs.
tnlib, Just wanted to say that I wandered over to the swashzone as a result of your comment on d-cap's piece on "The Front Page." Your comments there show you know the field, and I'm liking what I see on swashzone. You guys are already bookmarked for repeat visits. Thanks for some good pieces. ~~Hearing those old sirens always give me chills & goosebumps. I lived in Europe in the early 1970s and was shook by the sight of remaining bunkers and WWII damage on the sides of buildings. We've been so sheltered from that in this country. In the spring I'm traveling to Serbia, where the war damage will be even more recent...
mbarnato - Thank you. Gee, I'll have to go back and see what I said at d-caps! We have indeed been sheltered which brings up some of the interesting comments on my own blog about the Blitz. I copied and pasted Capt. Fogg's comment over there and there was a most interesting repsponse. Hear that, Capt?Please, by all means keep returning to The SZ - lot's of heavy hitters and major talent here. We welcome you. And let us know about your trip.
"Hear that, Capt?"Interesting comments? Oh goodie - as if I weren't already in the worst possible mood this morning.
I tried to take care of you, so smile. I'm trying to be optimistic but it's damn hard work.
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I heard those sirens on the old wooden radio when I was a kid. Milwaukee-Dad welded B-24 propellers.
ReplyDeleteI really have a very difficult time listening to them and always have had. Goosebumps.
ReplyDeleteWhen I lived in London in the 1980s, there were few reminders left of the war. All rubble had long since been removed; new buildings stood in their place.
ReplyDeleteBut when I moved to Farningham Kent a year later, I met neighbors who remembered the air raids and the doodlebugs and spoke of them. One neighbor recalled losing a childhood buddy during the raids. Another man was the one who hauled rubble out of London on lorries ... later used for roadbeds and landfill. Other neighbors recalled a live fire military exercise that went awry and killed thousands weeks before the Normandy invasion. The disaster was covered up - impact on morale, they said - and never made the history books but there were folks who still talked about it.
Years later as I traveled the continent, there were visible signs of war everywhere. Pock marked bullet holes in La Mairie de Rouen; a photo exhibit of the destroyed cathedral; the Gedächtniskirche on Kurfürstendamm in Berlin.
Wherever I traveled and saw these reminders of war, I thought of this popular song of the times: There'll Be Bluebirds Over The White Cliffs of Dover.
"the Gedächtniskirche on Kurfürstendamm in Berlin."
ReplyDeleteWhat remains of the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial church sticks up like a rotten tooth today. My first trip to Germany in 1965 was shocking for the amount of damage still visible, but at age 20 I thought the war was so long ago as to be all but irrelevant. East Germany at the time still had rubble piled up everywhere, bullet holes on walls. . .
My parents' house in Windsor - in sight of the castle - had a garden shed made from the reinforced concrete bomb shelter that proved too hard to demolish.
Right after our dearly beloved 9/11 attack, the reaction of the British was on my mind as a jarring contrast to the way the idiot Bush handled it. One has to compare the toughness of the Brits with the hysteria of Americans. One has to weigh Churchill's stirring " we will never surrender" speech to Bush's "we goan smokimout - wegoan gettim."
And remember the British had the armed might of the most powerful country in Europe to face down. We had some raggedy lunatics hiding in a cave with small arms and cell phones.
The Brits moved on, toughed it out. We still feel sorry for ourselves. We still are running around the barnyard like headless chickens.
My mother told me of watching the Nazis roll in to her native country. She was just a kid then but more than 60 years later there is still that haunted look in her eyes. The look of a child who experienced more fear and horror than any child should.
ReplyDeleteThe lesson we should take from this "greatest generation" I think is their resilience and resolve to stand up to evil, to fight back and to survive.
Great post tnlib.
Octo: My grandmom made her "Farewell Tour" in Europe in the 50s and brought back reels of film with bombed out structures in England and on the Continent. I listened intently as she described the devastation that was still so visible. "There'll Be Bluebirds Over The White Cliffs of Dover- I love that song.
ReplyDeleteCapt: If you don't mind, I'm going to copy this to my blog. I have wondered if we soft spoiled Americans could survive this in the here and now and if we would help those in need or would we slam the shelter doors in their faces. This stands out: "We still feel sorry for ourselves. We still are running around the barnyard like headless chickens."
Rocky: "The lesson we should take from this "greatest generation" I think is their resilience and resolve to stand up to evil, to fight back and to survive."
I don't think we have the grit. More importantly, the people who are always so eager to start the damn war are the least courageous of all. I think you mentioned where your mom was from but I've forgotten.
I just can't imagine going through any of that - 76 nights straight of sirens and bombs.
tnlib, Just wanted to say that I wandered over to the swashzone as a result of your comment on d-cap's piece on "The Front Page." Your comments there show you know the field, and I'm liking what I see on swashzone. You guys are already bookmarked for repeat visits. Thanks for some good pieces. ~~
ReplyDeleteHearing those old sirens always give me chills & goosebumps. I lived in Europe in the early 1970s and was shook by the sight of remaining bunkers and WWII damage on the sides of buildings. We've been so sheltered from that in this country. In the spring I'm traveling to Serbia, where the war damage will be even more recent...
mbarnato - Thank you. Gee, I'll have to go back and see what I said at d-caps! We have indeed been sheltered which brings up some of the interesting comments on my own blog about the Blitz. I copied and pasted Capt. Fogg's comment over there and there was a most interesting repsponse. Hear that, Capt?
ReplyDeletePlease, by all means keep returning to The SZ - lot's of heavy hitters and major talent here. We welcome you. And let us know about your trip.
"Hear that, Capt?"
ReplyDeleteInteresting comments? Oh goodie - as if I weren't already in the worst possible mood this morning.
I tried to take care of you, so smile. I'm trying to be optimistic but it's damn hard work.
ReplyDelete