Should we even try to save the United States from the malignant, festering, putrid, gangrenous growth spreading from the decayed remains of the Confederacy? a Texas GOP treasurer excretes a 'newsletter' which rages:
“Like the remainder of Lee’s army after Gettysburg, it is our duty to keep fighting to the bitter end, in hopes that Providence might shine upon our cause before it is too late, we must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity.”
He advocates the dissolution of the Union and the secession from it by Texas and the other hate-states. If this be not treason; if this isn't a declaration of war, then why look elsewhere for our enemies? Hell, why bother with reason when the madmen are assembling in the streets? If this is not a clear and present danger to America, what is? And why cannot we stop all the endless psychotic raving and invoke the "Bush Doctrine" and shock and awe these bastards until there's no one left to carry on the insurrection? Enough reasoning, explaining, proving -- no one was ever argued out of insanity. No one ever succeeded in converting Lenin or Stalin or Mussolini or Pol Pot or Idi Amin to decency and reason by blogging and no one ever will. Perhaps it's time to take up arms against a sea of madness and eliminate the Confederacy once and for all. Herein lies our opportunity -- our freedom, our survival!
They fear the tyranny of the majority, and rightly so. I suspect a tyranny by the minority might look much the same.
ReplyDeleteActually, since the union was voluntary when states signed on maybe it should be voluntary for a state to withdraw when a MAJORITY of its citizens vote to do so by the DEMOCRATC process.
What am I missing, if anything?
'..the malignant, festering, putrid, gangrenous growth spreading from the decayed remains of the Confederacy?' Now that is one of the more
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I was more than a little bit surprised by this secession meme myself. I went to a conservative b-lister that I had become aware of just to gloat a little bit. He was advocating that all of the red states secede and do a swap of their liberal citizens in fair exchange for the conservative denizens of the blue states. He thought it was close enough to 50/50 that we should be able to get started right away. Then they could build a wall around their confederacy and shoot immigrants on sight. A la Berlin wall. His commentariat was on board with this idea. I told him that he shouldn't shame other Texans because of his own ignorance.
ReplyDeleteI assumed it was hyperbole. I got banned and called a libturd! I guess there is no point in asking if they are really that stupid and misguided.
RN,
ReplyDeleteYes, I can see a rational argument about secession, economic suicide though it might be for the dropouts. States like Mississippi take far more from the Feds than they contribute, for all the hoola we hear from people howling about "the takers." Precedent suggests they won't get away with it!
But I'd almost be happy about two new Americas. The USA and Dumbfuckistan.
BB,
I try to be polite, yes. Besides, any worse and I might get arrested.
FJ,
What else can they do but ban you? Somehow they must instinctively know their bullshit is indefensible so they can't allow it. Candidates for Dumbfuckistan, for sure.
This is what happens when the beast realizes he is up against a wall, but really, people who call themselves "conservative" would certainly make themselves hoarse denouncing this rabid insanity is they were in fact conservative. The silence from the GOP is stunning -- almost as stunning as the cowardice and lack of integrity. They've been treed by their own dogs.
RN: "Actually, since the union was voluntary when states signed on maybe it should be voluntary for a state to withdraw when a MAJORITY of its citizens vote to do so by the DEMOCRATC process.
ReplyDeleteWhat am I missing, if anything?"
You're missing the fact that it would be illegal and, probably, treasonous.
The United States Supreme Court ruled unilateral secession unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession. And the basis for that secession?
John Adams: "Only 'repeated, multiplied oppressions' placing it beyond all doubt 'that their rulers had formed settled plans to deprive them of their liberties', could warrant the concerted resistance of the people against their government."
Not getting the outcome you wanted in an open and free election is hardly a reason for secession. Those who are advocating it are having a temper tantrum worthy of a colicky 2-year old. I'm sick of certain segments in the south who believe only they have the right to govern in this country.
No one's constitutional rights were abrogated by the re-election of President Obama.
What happend is that the opposition was gobsmacked by reality.
Did I say I supported succession? Playing the devil's advocate on this one Shaw. There is a valid argument that can be made. That's it.
ReplyDeleteRN, you asked if you were missing anything. I referred to the historical case that speaks to why secession is not something to be taken lightly.
ReplyDeleteYou did not give any insight to the "valid argument that can be made" for secession. You merely said there is one.
In the case of, say, Texas's threat of secession, I'm wondering what the valid arguments is for that state to do so.
AS far as I can determine, the federal government is making no move to deprive Texans of their liberty.
Capt. Fogg,
ReplyDeleteI don't suppose there's any way to know if or how much it matters what we post here or others post elsewhere. The only thing that would make a strong, at least semi-permanent difference would be for a new and better-educated generation to come along. Genuinely educated and humane individuals wouldn't buy the mindless garbage coming from the Right for any amount of money and no amount of talk. Until that happens, Americans will probably just consign themselves to their respective political corners, with what passes for a Left more or less making sense and a Right that is absolutely dedicated to the proposition that it's unacceptable ever to make any sense at all.
Blogging mostly shores up our own side, our own views. Which, I suppose, is worth something -- it cuts against isolation. Remember that mention I made a while back about journalist-author William Shirer feeling trapped in pre-war Nazi Germany? Ah, yes, the old "toxic discursive bubble" thing. Shirer found it hard to keep the crazy propaganda from coloring his understanding of what was going on because it was practically the only discourse available. I'll bet he would have appreciated a couple of "liberal-leaning" blog posts if the tech had existed back then.
”a swap of their liberal citizens in fair exchange for the conservative denizens of the blue states”
ReplyDeleteIf we partition the country and separate conservatives from liberals for the sake of keeping the peace, we will need a foolproof test for making a definitive diagnosis. Here is the problem: Some folks are simply more outspoken than others. How can you distinguish a conservative from a liberal if folks don’t speak up and self-identify? Fortunately there is a method: “University College London researchers say brains of the right-leaning have big amygdala, small anterior cingulate.”
The amygdala — typically thought of as the “primitive brain” — is responsible for reflexive impulses, like fear. Perhaps the enlarged amygdala accounts for the conservative tendency to engage in conspiracy theories such as Birtherism, Death Panels, Rape Camps and Obama Derangement Syndrome.
The anterior cingulate is thought to be responsible for courage and optimism. Thus, a larger anterior cingulate accounts for the liberal tendency to seek rational solutions to problems that often confound and confuse conservatives.
These differences in brain structure account for anecdotal claims that conservatives “think differently” from others.
As an elite group of liberals with pronounced anterior cingulates, we should follow the example of singular ungulates that learned long ago to seek safety in numbers, band together, keep blogging, and fend off those mega amygdalate maniacs.
(BTW, my Internet connection is back online after a service interruption of 5 days. Yup, you guessed it: That grossly incompetent, customer dis-service oriented, mega amygdala-dominated corporate entity known as Comcast.)
... and speaking of "Taking up arms," Octopus is B-A-A-C-K !!!
ReplyDeleteShaw,
ReplyDelete"AS far as I can determine, the federal government is making no move to deprive Texans of their liberty." No, the State Of Texas is defending its right to do that all by itself. Doing a good job too.
Dino,
I sometimes despair of seeing an educated generation emerge in America, particularly when much of that education has to have the prior approval from the Texas Bible and textbook authority, where God wrote the constitution in order to keep the races separate and with blonde Mr. Christ running the show.
Octo,
I like the hypothesis. Does a big amygdala go with a small, um. . .
My Earthlink DSL line was intermittent over the weekend too. I think we need to blame a higher power -- like the phone company.
Well, as a Jurassic carnivorous lizard, my brain is only the size of a walnut, so I doubt if there's even room for those parts you mention.... The entirety of my intellectual efforts goes towards snapping at prey.
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